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Hey Nick,

You′ve been back for a while and now and it′s good to see you around again. You left here quite a while ago and I was just wondering if you could give us a breakdown of where you′re at right now. Perhaps you′ve given an update here before, but I must have missed it. I think you posted a return thread here, but I don′t remember it being too detailed. I can′t find it anyways.

Fill us in mate. How are you training now? How are you eating now? How close are you to your strength and fat loss goals? If I remember correctly, you′ve been stripping fat for a while. How is that going and what have you found works best?

Anyways, good to see you around again and I look forward to your reply.

Cheers,
Jeff

Nick has been in your mom"s panty drawer. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hitexpert,

Get lost pal. People like you are why HIT and MM are so ill recieved.

Hey smanjh good to hear from you!

Hi Jeff,

Its all experimenting at the moment, I have not come to any firm conclusions yet but I am confident that there is room for much more growth since hitting my ′genetic potential′ with HD.

The reasons I am not 100% is that I am STILL cutting, so I have not yet focused on gaining lean weight, so I have nothing yet to base my opinions on. I went for a some time where I stopped training for a while and put some fat back on, so its taking a while to get lean. But I am almost down to a good lean bodyfat percentage and am looking forward to concentrating on gaining lean mass and staying relatively cut during that whole process.

I want to avoid the condition I found myself in a while back whild doing the con. routine, that is quite bulky, but deconditioned and smooth. So thats why I′m maybe a bit over concerned with getting defined.

I have experimented with high protien, low protien, raw foods, tried Mikes older routines, I tried the musclenow program for a bit and I definately got stronger every single workout that is 3 times a week. I only found the diet hard, for me I cant keep up that kind of protien ratio although I know it works.

I have learned a lot and I am going to use this when I decide its time to stop cutting and start growing. I am going to use a sort of hybrid of the musclenow program where I follow the same increase sets during a cycle, but have taken out a few isolation movements. The routine looks like this:

A)
Squats
Inclines
Dips
Military Press

B)
Rows
Deadlifts
Barbell Curl
Crunches

Routines are performed mon,wed,fri increasing volume and sets during a 6 week cycle. I would have done just bench press for chest but suffered an ongoing rotator cuff problem which was direct result of bench pressing. So I decided to do inclines instead along with dips after which I have found very good.

Thats all for now.

Cheers mate
Nick

Hey Nick,

Thanks a lot for the update. Glad to hear things are going well!

What percentage do you want to get down to? I remember you saying somewhere that your lower abs are starting to show up. What percentage is that for you? You′ve been cutting for a while I think, so you′re probably looking forward to ramping up the cals again and going for broke?

Also, how has your weight and measurements changed over the course of losing all the fat? I was thinking of cutting down a bit too in the not so distant future, and it would be good to know what to expect on the tape measure when I finally do.

Routine looks pretty good. The MN 6 week cycle is an awsome hypertrophy program in my view. Certainly does the job when gaining size, that′s for sure. Have you tried a full cycle before? If so, how did you like weeks 5&6? I always did the 5 day a week program and those weeks almost burried me. Size gains were well worth the pain though.

The diet is definately tough. I always found that the hardest part of the program, way eaiser than the training if you can believe it. All I can say is, try to follow the eating plan as much as you can. Lower the protien ratio to 80/20 if need be, but follow the cal recommendations. They make ALL the difference is actually getting any gains out of your effort.

lol…Here I am giving eating advice to you! Didn′t you spend months on 4500 a day a while back? Just don′t forget to increase when you′re supposed to.

Oh, and one thing about the rotator cuff. Have you started doing any re-hab work for it? I had a pretty bad right cuff, then my left cuff "popped" pretty badly back in August, and some re-hab work has really helped to the point that I can flat press again pain free. I′ve also fixed a few crucial form problems with Rippetoe′s book that have made a difference as well. Just a thought anyways if you′re interested in flat pressing again someday.

Talk to ya later,
Jeff