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Started By Iron (Jackson, MS, U.S.A.)

Started on: 2/22/2004 8:58:57 PM, viewed 501 times
Shoulder Exercises

When I am doing lateral raises and bent laterals for my shoulders, I am never able to properly go to failure. My arms are always able to lift the dumbbells at least a few inches at the end of a set, which means I have not completely made my shoulders go to failure. I am not sure what I should do. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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NeuroMass (Jackson, MS, U.S.A., Philippines) on 2/22/2004 9:24:04 PM

I′m not really sure what you mean when you said that you are still able to lift the dumbbells a few inches at the end of the set . Anyway training to failure is the point where you can no longer COMPLETE a positive rep NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY ! PEACE.

Iron (Jackson, MS, U.S.A.) on 2/22/2004 9:46:17 PM

What I mean is that I am still able to lift my arms out to my side about 8 inches or so. I am never at a point on shoulder exercises where I cannot move the weight at all, I am always able to move it somewhat. But if I have exhausted my ability to do a complete positive rep than I guess I have already reached failure and the partial reps are all done post failure.

CanadaMan (Saskatoon, SK, Canada) on 2/22/2004 10:55:12 PM


I think you′ve hit the nail on the head with your reply.

From what I′ve read in other guys′ posts, positive failure means doing reps until you can no longer complete a full, strict rep. That′s it. Therefore, if you can only move your arms eight inches, you are not completing a full rep, and you should stop your set at that point. I made the mistake before of carrying on with partials until I couldn′t move the weight at all. That practice always led to overtraining. Now I always stop my sets once the weight sticks, and I′m adding weight and/or reps in every workout now.

Good luck.


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