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Started By psycho_101 (cairo, nc, egypt)

Started on: 4/18/2009 6:45:13 PM, viewed 2658 times
What do you think of Dorian Yates′ HIT?

I found out that there is a method of HIT that dorian yates made using HD by mike mentzer and he used it to become Mr. olympia. I′m 19 now and was volume training for 2 years and on the consolidation routine for about 5 months now. there were no gains in my arms at all even though they grow as weed. the significant growth was at my back and my quads. I actually lost some muscle during one month of the 2 year volumed training and even 5 months of consolidation routine didnt recover what i lost. Do you recommend the Dorian yates′ HIT for me or not ? why?

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psycho_101 (cairo, nc, egypt) on 4/18/2009 6:45:46 PM

btw i′m a natural bodybuilder

andyr (los alamitos, ca, U.S.A.) on 4/18/2009 7:17:56 PM

just stick to mike mentzers routine, and trust me you will be amazed. i wouldn′t recomend it if i did not believe.

kshatriya1985 (Williamsburg, VA, USA) on 4/19/2009 12:28:42 AM

When Dorian Trained with Mike back in the early 90′s this routine looked like this

Workout 1


1 set x Dumbell flyes, with no rest perform

1 set x Machine Incline Press

1 set x Machine Lateral Raises

1 set x Machine Rear Lateral Raises

1 set x Triceps Pressdowns

1 set x Nautilus multi triceps machine

Workout 2


1 set x Nautilus Machine Pullovers, with no rest perform

1 set x Palms Up Close Grip Pulldowns

1 set x Hammer Iso Low Rows

1 set x Hammer Plate Loaded Shrugs

1 set x Nautilus Multi Biceps Machine

1 set x 90 degree spider curls

Workout 3


1 set x Leg Extensions, with no rest perform

1 set x Leg Press

1 set x Barbell Squats

1 set x Leg Curls

1 set x Stiff Legged Deadlifts

2 sets x Calf Raises


All sets taken to failure

For the superset sequences, warm ups were always performed with the compound movement

There was extensive use of forced reps, negative accentuated reps, statics and rest pause

The workouts were performed on a monday, wednesday, friday basis

This is Too much training for the natural everyday joe bodybuilder. It is similar to his Ideal Routine as outlined in Heavy Duty II or HIT The Mike Mentzer Way, I will outline that routine for you too

Day 1, Chest/Back

1 set x Flyes or Pec Dec (6 to 10 reps) with no rest perform

1 set x Incline Machine Press or Dips (1 to 3 reps)

1 set x Machine Pullovers or Dumbell Pullovers or Stiff Arm Pulldowns (6 to 10 reps) with no rest perform

1 set x Palms Up Pulldowns or Palms up Pullups or Barbell Rows (2 to 4 reps)

1 set x Deadlifts (5 to 8 reps)

Rest 4 to 7 days

Workout 2


1 set x Dumbell Laterals or Machine Laterals or Cable Lateral Raises ( 6 to 10 reps)

1 set x Rear Machine Laterals or Rear Cable Laterals or Rear Dumbell Laterals (6 to 10 reps)

1 set x Barbell Curls or Preacher Curls or Nautilus Curls (6 to 10 reps)

1 set x Tricep Cable Pressdowns or Lying Tricep Extensions ( 6 to 10 reps) with no rest perform

1 set x Machine or Weighted Dips (1 to 3 reps)

Rest 4 to 7 days

Workout 3

Legs and Abs

1 set x Leg Extensions (8 to 15 reps) with no rest perform

1 set x Leg Press (8 to 15 reps)

1 set x Calf Raises (standing) 8 to 15 reps

1 set x Any Ab Exercise 8 to 15 reps

Hope that makes sense, I would also Youtube Mike Mentzer training Markus Reinhardt so you understand exercise performance, cadence, how to properly warm up, supersetting etc.

All the best

– K

kshatriya1985 (Williamsburg, VA, USA) on 4/19/2009 12:36:18 AM

Also regarding your questions

1. How often are you training?

2. Are you training to failure?

Everyone I′ve ever spoken to thinks they train to failure, more than 80% of them wouldn′t know real "training to failure" if it slapped them in the face. When you hit failure, your heart rate and respiratory rate should spike, you should be unable to perform one more complete repetition of the weight you should be completely exhausted, out of breath and literally falling into a bundle on the floor. Note when you finish performing the pre exhaust cycles you should literally be dry heaving. I am not suggesting training mindlessly into a state of illness nor am I suggesting those with health issues train in this manner to failure without the approval of a licensed medical practitioner or authority. But I am saying when you′re done with a pre exhaustion cycle it should have you whipped and literally on the floor. If you aren′t training that hard, don′t expect results plain, simple, true.

No offense, but I′ve never met anyone on a HIT routine who trained with that intensity, ate well and rested enough who wasn′t making gains in either strength, mass or both. So consider that.

3. How long are your workouts taking you?

4. Are you keeping a log book of your training routines and improving on them each and every time either in weight, reps or both?

5. Address these issues and remember it always comes down to the following

a. Am I training hard enough?

b. Am I resting enough?

c. Is my training brief enough?

Think about it and let us know, also scanning through the boards is always a good idea. Chances are someone out there has answered the questions you have in the past, just search for them in the search box.

All the best

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