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Started By DeadTrap (Somewhere, *, U.S.A.)

Started on: 5/27/2006 2:15:16 PM, viewed 5052 times

How many of you came to this forum and attacked Mike′s ideas and then later became a real HD HIT guy? You know the show me pics kind of guy, the it does not work guy, the I do not know anything and have not read any books-so PROVE it to me that it works!!

Should they all just be ignored??


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Tdrag (Belgrade, Serbia, Serbia) on 5/27/2006 4:06:05 PM

On this site I would say that 100% "hit bashers" are former hiters, and there are some "bashers" that turned back to HD.

RoyFokker (Unnamed, NJ, U.S.A.) on 5/28/2006 7:28:24 AM

Well I came to this site because I believed in HIT. But I think Mike Mentzer did everyone who ever picked up his books a great disservice by bashing every other training protocol so much in his books.

gav223 (cardiff, cardiff, uk) on 5/28/2006 12:00:30 PM

I don′t know yet if HD training works long term. I have been training this way for about 2/3 months, and so far am very happy with the results i′ve got. As for bashing other training protocols all I can say is this. I am a builder by trade so the example I give will be related to that topic. My father and uncle have both been builders for over 30 years and are now property developers. Some times I have gone and done some work for them and to say that they are way behind the times is an understatement. My father had me hacking render of a wall with a hammer and bolster. I spent a whole day and only managed to get one wall finished out of the 4 plus both my hands and forearms were in bits from the constant pounding. I asked him to hire a hammer/chisel drill or buy a cheap one, and his reply was "you don′t need no hammer drill we′ve been doing this for years". The next morning before going to work I went and bought myself a hammer drill for £30, in about 5 hours I had finished the other 3 walls. As it was taking me a day to finish 1 wall they were going to pay me £50 per day to do the 4, which would have been £200. I finished the job 2 days and 3 hours early and they still paid me the £200. Everytime I work with them i′m always complaining about the way they do things as to me they are wasting time and therefore it does not become cost effective. I am always slating them because my protocol is a much more efficient way. From this if MM HD system does work then I personally think that he has the right to bash every other one. Even if you only got 50% of the results compared to volume training I would still say that he is right as the amount of time you put into HD training is way below 50% compared to volume.

Jeff (Toronto, M5T, Canada) on 5/29/2006 2:36:21 AM


I guess this all depends on what your goals are.

If you don′t want to spend much time working on your body and athleticism, but want to get some decent results for your efforts, then training once a week for 20 minutes might be fine.

If you want to push your body to the limits and see where you can go both physically and mentally, then eventually you′re going to have to up the training demands, which will necessitate an increase in training time.

I know you′ve only been doing this for 3 months. I was still in my "bliss phase" at that time. But eventually you′re going to have to make a choice; be happy with what you′ve got, or up your training time to get you over the hump. If HITers don′t have it in them to up their training time to get to the next level, that′s fine, but don′t assume others are "bling, ignorant, untheoretical, confused," etc., because they have taken the next step. 50% results don′t win gold medals.

To the original poster,

I came to this site in Oct 2004. I was as convinced a HITer as anyone, and had been for over 7 years. After taking an objective look at my progress over that 7 years, devoid of all the hype, I realized I′d been fooling myself for a very long time.

Will I use low volume / frequency work in the future? For sure. It can be very useful if used properly. But I won′t make the mistake of falling for the dogma again.


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