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Just wanted to know from anyone if they have looked at or tried the max-ot program?

Basically, it′s backed up by scientific information and the workouts are very intense.

Also, just wanna ask in general, who in this forum can say that they have had no trouble with HIT and its principles, either Mentzer′s way or Darden′s way and have actually made significant gains over a relatively short period of time, as well as over a consistent period of time? To me, there are some aspects of both Mentzer′s and Darden′s theories which seem contradictory, especially in Darden′s where there is a major emphasis on significant rest between workouts in order to help growth, yet the full body is being trained on a one day on – one day off system.

Any comments?

i tried Darden′s type of training many years ago and while i had some initial gains, they quickly came to a halt. Imo, it will amount to overtraining for the majority of people who try it. regardless, I learned a lot from my experience with the routine even though i didnt gain shit. I am considering picking up his new book though, simply because he is an intelligent guy with a hell of a lot of years in the trenches and i′m sure there is something useful to be gained by reading it.

If you want to read some testimonials as to the effectiveness of Mike′s HD, check out his website.

regards,

B&G;

btw, which parts of the HD theory to you find to be contradictory?

bloodandguts,

In his new book, Darden has a year long HIT program. He starts off having you workout 3 days per week, using the same 12 exercises each workout. By the end of the year, you′re doing 8 exercises, once every 5 days, alternating between 2 different full-body workouts. It seems that Darden has started to place more importance on recovery ability, especially for more advanced lifters.

Jason.

like i stated earlier or meant to say is that darden points out the principle of getting sufficient rest between workouts, yet one day is all he says is required for the entire body to rest, and when i questioned him about using the same principles on a split routine he said he would not suggest i work that way as it will not have the same effect.

mentzer′s program uses split routines, this confused me because apparently both apply the same principles yet they are to be conducted differently.

In the book the wisdom of mike mentzer the program which he set out for dorian yates was the most effective for me, but only for a very short period of time. The gains that both programs – mentzers and dardens – were suppost to give in theory did not materialise. But still, I did enjoy reading what Mike had to say.

I′ve read the testimonials but as we all know, every form of working out has them.

B&G; how long have u been doing HIT, and what gains have u made in terms of muscle mass and strength, or whatever your goals may be?