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Started By ICS (Kingston, gggggg, Canada)

Started on: 3/7/2006 4:00:40 PM, viewed 756 times
More Volume + more frequency = More energy ???

Since I have switched over to more frequent training with more volume I actually feel like I have more energy in day to day life.

When I was doing the consolidated routine I would feel run down for sometime several days after a workout, especially after doing deadlifts. But now I feel great the next day. Is this because I am getting more exercise? This sounds crazy but it′s almost like I had symptoms of overtraining when I was doing less.

Has anyone else experienced this?

ICS

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Analyzer (CDA, id, U.S.A.) on 3/7/2006 4:12:47 PM

yes, me too, big time. And yes, the energy and cardio systems in the body have a MUCH shorter half-life as far as supercompensation and decompensation, than does the muscular system. So your getting in better conditioning and shape by training more

dafortae (a, a, U.S.A.) on 3/7/2006 4:50:41 PM

Yes, I have noticed similar symptoms. A lot of people on here are calling it ′undertraining′ sometimes, when frequency is too low. I′m still not convinced that′s the case. I think it may have more to do with the routine itself (Athlete′s routine), involving LESS exercises but causing more overall stress to the system (NOT the muscles). Generally, when we workout more often, we don′t go as intensely (short of failure), so that too doesn′t drain the system as much.

I′m experimenting with keeping frequency the same, but now alternative isolation with compounds. SO far, I′ve had much more energy, and have been progressing very nicely. My system is coming out of the overtraining depths I theorize. So this extra energy isn′t because I′m in better shape, it because the system isn′t under such a "load" or overtrained state (whatever causes this, could largely be mental/hormonal).

I think the problem is with our definition of "shape". I have MORE endurance now, with HIT, than I ever had with volume training AND cardio at the same time. I FELT better when I did the volume training, but I couldn′t last as long. Analyzer talked about this and explained that the heart may be pumping harder now, ATP energy turnover rates increase, etc. This leads to a more "drained" feeling (not comfortable), but never-the-less, high energy production. So the weird thing is, one can actually LAST LONGER with movement, force resistance, etc., but actually FEEL worse. To me, this doesn′t mean the person is in bad "shape", it means the person has systemic overloading. Deload the system and you′ll magically get in better "shape".

Darrell

Analyzer (CDA, id, U.S.A.) on 3/7/2006 6:16:38 PM

That′s really interesting Darrell, your in better shape now? Man, I wish it would have worked that way for me. When I was training with very little volume and low frequency, I had hardly any energy during the days. Even going up a long flight of stairs was rough. I started doing conditioning work (daily) + my routine and found I had more and more energy. Suddenly, my little short workouts became easy. Instead of thinking "Whew, that was tough, glad it′s done" I started thinking "That′s it? I want MORE!" and had to restrain myself from adding exercises.

Maybe were all more different physiologically than we think! Some of us lose our fitness fast while other don′t. Or maybe you have the genetics to be SUPER fit and your normal fitness is better then my trained fitness?

Az

mdm (Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom) on 3/8/2006 6:15:14 AM

Hi ICS,

I had exactly the same experiences. I found that doing more made me more energetic. When I was doing HD I was lifting weights once per week or less and playing soccer once per week for an hour. I was always knackered. Now I lift weights 3 times per week (soon to be increased to 4) and I play soccer for two hours per week. I feel much better and my results in the gym have improved dramatically. I am no longer totally wiped out for days after a session.

Food for thought…….

Mdm

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